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Posted: Thu Sep 18th, 2008 12:51 am |
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Dee,
Omg does anyone have a bigger heart than you?I believe Joe is worth waitng for because he is a good person and yes I think if I had him heart and soul he would be awesome.I have not had a chance to talk to him yet.When I do maybe things will become clearer.Whats wrong with the man?Well the same thing that is wrong with alot of men,they have no clue.I think his ex just got tired of asking for his attention.I refuse to anymore.I hate my self for it beause it demeans me.Plus I am not being heard.As I said I am going to lay the cards on the table.Thanks again sweetie.
Ellie
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Posted: Thu Sep 18th, 2008 03:37 am |
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Hello ELLIE, just a question, have you shared with JOE, all that you have shared here? DOES he know how your really feeling and thinking concerning you both.
I Feel, hes very cautious and worries about repeating and making same mistakes/failure again. Thats maybe why he is questioning and looking at the whys and wherefores that caused much distress.
communication is the magik key to longlasting happiness and good healthy relationships/marriages to reach many splendid years still united.
Males have tendency to fall behind in opening up and letting their true feelings flow, but with gentle persuasion and openess felt from partner, begins a growing/sharing and trusting between 2 people, that is sacred and respected bond. YOU clearly have questions needing answers, after 2 years together, its okay to ask him, and expect him to respond with truthof inner feelings, for then you are free to talk about each others desires plans, etc with understanding through listening from the heart without conditions.
THEN its time for you to ask yourself what do you want to acheive/work/direct your personal energy to, a fulfilling and satisfying place of your choosing.
peace and harmony SORAYA
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Posted: Thu Sep 18th, 2008 08:35 am |
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Blah.
My cousin told us once that good communication is the key to good relationships...
I wish she had told me that earlier... before I was led to believe men could read women's minds. LOL.
I still feel you are lucky, Ellie. Because you know in your heart you have a good man. And we all know we, women, need a bit more patience when we deal with good men.
Hugs!
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Posted: Thu Sep 18th, 2008 01:36 pm |
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well Ellie.........see how much we all love you in here!
communication is key as Faye and Soraya said.....I know it's hard though when the other half doesn't really 'open' his true self.........you deserve all the wonders of life.....and love...and a good healthy relationship.....as I said before, I do feel you two will be together....I just feel Joe needs to heal his heart before he can be a whole person again to give to you all that love entails and all a relationship should be...your a patient woman Ell....sending the love and prayers your way...when you decide to speak with him and spill your heart out there ask your guides and angels to be with you ....to give you the right words and to help you show Joe just how much you love him and want to be with him in this life.....I don't doubt you two are meant to be ....this poor man just needs to work through his hurts first...and then you two can begin a 'new' life...
our blessings are with you ....our love is behind you.....take your time...do things when it feels right for you....I can feel the reiki in my hands at at the moment....a sign to me to send it now....that is the awesome thing about this energy...the reiki guides know you and Joe are in need of healing....and it's telling me to send...so here it comes honey....embrace the love God sends to you.....and know He is sending His love to you and to Joe for healing........so be it
Gotta Love It !!!!!!!!!!
my thoughts are with you.....I wish you the best of everything
Dee
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Ellie Member
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Posted: Thu Sep 18th, 2008 03:09 pm |
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Thankyou everyone,
I feel the love that comes from all of you.I know Joe needs time to heal.I can except that.I think a big issue with him also is that he never did have closure.She never told him why she left.I love Joe but I can also relate to her as a women.She had needs.However in his defense he is not a mind reader and if she didnt tell him what she needed he wouldnt know.They did not communicate at all.Thats why I am going to talk to him openly and honestly.I can tell him 100 times he can trust me and I would never hurt him but he does have to learn to completly trust again.It took me a long time to trust and at times things do still run through my mind.I had to remember Joe is not Patrick (my ex) and I am not Barbara (his ex.)Thanks again
Ellie
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Posted: Thu Sep 18th, 2008 11:53 pm |
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Posted: Tue Sep 16th, 2008 01:45 pm

Julie,
I also believe that actions speak louder than words and when Joe is here he cant do enough to for me.The trouble is he isnt here enough.My dad was really smart also at least commen sense wise and he taught us alot.Joe and I have never had a fight.The big issue is the time we spend or dont spend together in this case.Its scary cuz I dont know what to do.I have decided when he comes over tomorrow I am just going to lay it on the line for him.I am going to tell him that I am making plans to move away maybe next year.This is my plan.I am going to save money and move back to hawaii where I lived for almost a year.I think at that point the ball will be in his court.I am not giving him an ultimatum.I am just going to explain how I feel.I am not breaking up with him either.I am 44 years old and all though this relationship is very important to me I think I need to do something to make my own dreams come true.We will see what happens.Maybe he will save up and want to go with me.That would be great.Thanks.
Ellie
So Ellie,
Did you get a chance to lay it on the line with Joe last night? Did you get a chance to tell him exactly how you are feeling? What was the outcome?
Julie
Last edited on Fri Sep 19th, 2008 12:11 am by AriesAngel
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Posted: Fri Sep 19th, 2008 12:18 am |
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Ellie,
We're with you...good plan to lay it all out...rather than build up resentment.
Love,m
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Ellie Member
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Posted: Fri Sep 19th, 2008 02:11 am |
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Julie,
No he didnt come over again and tonight cancelled also.He said tomorrow.I do not believe him anymore.He is avoiding me because he knows I want to have a talk I think.Then if I do see him tomorrow it will be for about 3 hrs then he has a golf game.Then sat he is playing also.I am just fed up.
Ellie
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Posted: Fri Sep 19th, 2008 02:24 am |
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I'm sorry Ellie....
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Ellie Member
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Posted: Fri Sep 19th, 2008 11:09 am |
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Posted: Fri Sep 19th, 2008 07:11 pm |
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| I would plan some activities of my own...go about your own business;;;have some fun. I imagine he might take some notice...
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Posted: Fri Sep 19th, 2008 08:39 pm |
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| Sorry Ellie Do you have any friends there you can go out with and get out???? I wish all of us could come get together and have a evening out together....I understand so well how you feel.....I have been there it took mike awhile but it did turn out good.....My thoughts and prayers are with you... Dana
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Ellie Member
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Posted: Sat Sep 20th, 2008 12:39 am |
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I have friends I do things with but sometimes I want to do things with the man in my life.Hey there is a bar right down the street but thats something I will never do again.So that was a little sarcastic I am sorry.I live in a small small town not much to do here and no vehicle.Mostly farmers and their tractors.Thats why I want to move to Hawaii.Well thanks and god bless.
Ellie
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