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Posted: Mon May 19th, 2008 03:44 pm |
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Once we are done here, do we go back to where we came from and stay there or do you guys think we come back here again? I think I'm just thinking aloud here  Because maybe IF we didn't finish what we came here to do, we'd come back??
I have seen where I came from and I'd really like to go back there. Although I have been having fun here as well.
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Posted: Mon May 19th, 2008 08:40 pm |
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Sylvia Browne says that this life is everyone's last lifetime. But ofcourse, if we are EarthAngels/Lightworkers, which everyone here is, then we come back whenever needed, I believe.
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Posted: Mon May 19th, 2008 10:53 pm |
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Hi Sea and paul
I didn't know Sylvia said that! I never remember to see her on Montel and now he is done.
well...from what I've read on the subject...and adding what Sylvia says...during this lifetime now we,in the very near future...will be shown and know what the hecks been going on all this time since that whole screw up ( lol ) with adam and eve...anyway...this whole reencarnation thing was for one thing ...our time to 'learn' how to return to that Oneness with God from whence we came....and while here we changed for the worse and that is where 'karma' comes in....and our reasons now is we need to 'learn' how find our way back to God...we are one with him...and we will be again....we just got SO far away from that oneness with the ego etc. that the getting back to oneness is near impossible...hell...we can't even agree on religion's here never mind 'believe' what we need to to return to that place....
the knowledge ...the vibration...shedding all the ego...I mean the list goes on....and now I've gotten off track...but...long ago when we first came here we weren't the 'heavy' bodies we are now....we were a much higher developed soul with a much higher vibration and we could and did go between there and here with mere thought....again...off track....so....when this whole new thing comes about by the year 2012...we will 'know' all the truth...everyone. we won't 'have' to come back and 'learn' anymore.we will already 'know'...we can however, Choose to come and be in body .....and many will...but some won't...it will be our choice...not our 'debt'...that is what i feel is true...that is what I've been led to read about....there is going to be a huge shift...and there will be drama...and there will be a need for healers because the planet is going to blow! and it needs to in order to replenish what we as humans have totally screwed up...I look forward to that change...so,,,is that far out there enough for you!
lol...I believe we come here 'to' learn 'how' to return to that 'oneness' with GOd...and all of us , say , in this forum are all on the right track...so, keep up the desire to learn more...ask God how to get there. when we can shed that 'ego' crap we are making a huge stride in the right direction...
so, I do think Sylvia is right about our last life....in a karmic way...that veil they speak of...how much 'thinner' it is getting...used to be very thin and that was why we could go from spirit to human with such ease...and I do believe we will once again...
who else has some twist on this issue?
DeeLast edited on Mon May 19th, 2008 10:57 pm by dee
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namaste
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Posted: Tue May 20th, 2008 03:41 am |
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Seablue,
You ask one of the toughest questions out there. I have found that the answer depends on who you ask. Native Americans believe that there are thirteen levels. Each involves a separate lifetime I THINK.
Here is a mind blower for you. If you are a Bhuddist then you believe that we are constantly changing. Time does not exist per se. Reality is NOW. The past is over and no longer exists. The future is yet to be. All that is is NOW.
Early Christianity had a faction which DID believe in reincarnation. They are known as Gnostics. Personally I like their take on the issue you raise. Their beliefs were not included in the King James Bible. In 1948 some gospels were found in Nag Hamdi Egypt. These documents have in them what are known as "The Gospel According to Thomas". The Jesus that is described in these writings is....well....wonderful... He is reallllly our brother literaly. Which means that you and I and everyone is a son or daughter of GOD. The Gnostics believe that our souls are devine. Our souls collectivly make up GOD. Each of us is equally important in comprising all that is. Furthermore, Love is as close as one can come to describing what GOD is. This love is sensed as pure light.
Dee's description of vibrations is also something that I've heard about. I have read things which agree with all of what I have ever read that she has posted. I tip my hat to her for doggedly urging us to...awaken and BE our true selves. I am trying. YET ironically the trick is to BE without trying. YEAH. Tough. But it gets easier all of the time. Once you start on this path there is no going back. That is why I am sooo anxious for this awakening to happen for all. The Archeons is just another example of this AWAKENING thing which seems to be happening. Just not fast enough to suit Dee or "The world according to PAUL" HA.
I am no expert. These are just some parallel thoughts to yours.
I might add that you have caused me to kick back and pause. I have been blown away in this life on more thatn one occasion and in vastly different ways. Originally, your claim to be an Angel in human form was something I'd never heard of. In days gone by I'd have thought you a bit crazy. NO MORE. In fact since you mentioned it I decided that hey you just might be an Angel...Then I read something that corraborates your claim. Sooooo, my hat is off to you my friend. Say... if you really are an Angel would you doff your halo instead of a hat??? LOL
namaste with hands held high,
paul
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Posted: Tue May 20th, 2008 12:49 pm |
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hi paul,
So, that book...The Gospel According to Thomas. I hear and have read that what he wrote is absolute truth...and that he has been one of the very few who HAS written more truth than a lot of others in the bible...probably because he was one of the biggest of the DIS-blievers....I still cannot wait to read it..everytime I go to buy it ...it is sold out again!..guess it is time to order it...
If anyone knows about St. Pio...I have been lucky enough to live close enough to a church here that is holing a 'mass' for the anniversary of his death...he was a man who suffered...maybe a bad choice of a word...he suffered with stigmata...that is holes in his hands and others things of that sort....after his passing years ago...in the late 30's or early 40's he was names as a Saint...the mass is also going to be followed by footage of the things he did in his life and also some relics of sorts.....I pray to him 'a lot' when I am asking for healings....he has done much for my mom...and if anyone wants to know anymore about him you can google his name and there are many many sites to choose from...
so, paul....what does 'Thomas' say in his writings? tell me more!
thanks.....Dee
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Posted: Mon May 26th, 2008 01:17 pm |
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I believe personally that everything is cyclic, much like one giant sin wave. Much like stated by namaste and dee, I believe that the summation of everything is God. How long the cycle is, how many lifetimes, is it just one repeated or is it many many? Is it a cycle of 26 thousand years, more? Many ancient cultures believe in the cycle and I must admit the idea of a cycle ties together many beliefs of many cultures.
To explain further: First, why a sin wave. I say a sin wave because it goes on forever with no beginning and no end, but infinite up periods followed by down periods (or vise versa). This takes into account the idea of karma and balance, as how in the long run, of a sin wave the average is exactly 0 for the balance is perfect. How long periods last, how they change, I could not say. With this theory in mind though, it means that yes we do come back when it is time for that new period to occur again. It also means that we stay away for a long enough time so that by the time we do come back, we are ready for it.
By "we are ready for it" I mean basically what many say when there is no good or bad, there just is what is. Everything, anything gets old after long long periods of time of it. If everything were in peace forever, there would be many that would crave the opposite. With that in mind these times many consider bad are actually not bad, but instead something different. I personally, at least at this moment in my eternal lifetime, much much prefer peace. But as oe who at one point greatly enjoyed playing video games, I can understand how an eternal soul that sees nothing as permanent and in many ways sees everything as a game, would crave violent times.
To relate this to something most anyone will be able to understand: Television, movies, film, and as previously mentioned video games. Much of the entertainment we receive is based on violence, betrayal, and distrust. This so called "bad things" are necessary parts to many of these stories to provide entertainment.
To explain even further, these down times make the up times just that much better!! Not many people stop to appreciate how amazing it feels to breathe until after they have been sick for a while. Think about it in that sort of reference. We have been living in a "hell" for some time now and because of that "heaven" will be so so so much the greater!
I imagine the switch back to pain occurs for a few reasons. 1. A re-curiosity as to what pain is. When without something for a long time, one can't help but wonder what it is. 2. Boredom. It is another story, another adventure, something new. 3. If for no other reason, it's re-self-inflicting the "sickness" (if one needs to think of it that way to understand it)so that one can re-appreciate what it is to not be that way.
Just to state, some of my favorite TV shows are based on conflicts between warring nations, or between some sort of eternal struggle between a "good" and "bad" that is always in balance.
Just to add a small detail, I honestly believe that the sin wave has infinitely smaller sin waves that make up the BIG sin wave. This way there is always a flow to it, with constant mini ups and down within the bigger ups and downs.
ANYWAYS, that is what I believe... Or at least I think it is. This communication thing is always very difficult.
-With love- Me
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namaste
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Posted: Mon May 26th, 2008 03:20 pm |
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dominion,
I like your analogy. Works for me. Yin Yang. I take it that "sin wave" is a mathmatical term without religioius connotations. I never took Trigonometry or Calculus. I am fascinated by such things however. In particular the Mandelbrot set and fractile geometry. Related to it is a book about an underlying theme of order in chaos. That book is really about science supporting the existence of God or metaphysics at the very least. Heck Quanum physics is pretty far out stuff itself. I mean protons acting differently just because they are being watched. Hmmmmm.
paul
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Posted: Tue May 27th, 2008 12:54 pm |
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How cool it is!!! Like I've said before many times....finally...science and religion coming together...how could we have one without the other!
Dee
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