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Nancy
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Posted: Mon Jul 19th, 2010 06:47 pm |
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After being here a while i thought well i see great story's about people who say to be an incarnated angel or even an incarnated archangel. But how about your knowledge of beings that tell you great story's to mislead you play with you for a while untill you are emotional distroyed. Young people esp girls who are jelling for some attention are easy influenced. They go threw a rough time and then are weaker so demon's can say there your guardian gett you up again let you believe everything. Maybe they show you there your angels, guides.. so they can gain your trust and after a while they will show there real face. Don't want to frighten you all but please when you get a message just check it not only by a friend but also threw a good medium or so. Someone who is objective and don't know your personally they are the best judges.
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Posted: Mon Jul 19th, 2010 09:47 pm |
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Hello Nancy,
welcome to the forum...a lot of newbies here of late and it is wonderful to see!!!
in regards to this subject of 'incarnated angels' etc...well...first off I don't believe in demons in the way most people do...we are so capable of 'manifesting' things with our simple thoughts and beliefs...meaning if we do believe demons are real we will manifest them in our life.......and as far as archangels or incarnated angels...well.....I'm not sure a lot of people who say they are incarnated truly are.....but....there are a million reasons I believe that way and I think people who DO believe in that stuff have to find the truth throughout their journey on their own.....I use to let myself get all worked up about such things...certainly not what 'God' would want....most definitely some people 'are' easily influenced...and hopefully when the get further into their journey or growth they will see for themselves the truth of God and Angels...and why they are 'not' visible so to speak...but...respect is a must,,, otherwise it is judging....and when we judge others for their belief's we only bring judgment on ourselves...
we all learn things in our 'best' time...when we are meant to be exposed to them. And lets face it 'NONE' of us can say we know everything...who knows what the future will show 'us'? God is the only one who really truly knows...and I do have faith and trust in Him...all will be exposed to us fully in the future...in our lifetime..Yea! aren't we lucky!!!
blessings and welcome Nancy....dee
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Posted: Mon Jul 19th, 2010 09:55 pm |
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| we are so capable of 'manifesting' things with our simple thoughts and beliefs...meaning if we do believe demons are real we will manifest them in our life..;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;hmmmmmmmmmm possible...............maybe it works that way with angels too.............we just created all these things with our simple thoughts and beliefs....................god,,,,,,,,angels........demons..................Never thought of it that way
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Nancy
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Posted: Mon Jul 19th, 2010 10:00 pm |
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hey dee,
well indeed we are capable of manifesting entity's etc. But some of the things people go through can't be put under manifesting. What about a child of 2 or 3 who is possesed tell me what did this child manifested? a ghost under the closed maybe but not good enough for such an attack. In every culture you hear story's about negative spirit's and good without negative you wouldn't see the defference of good it al would be grey. Everwhere on earth there is duality and that doesn't come from humans only you even see it in the nature etc. About incarneted angels and so well it's a opinion i give people need to learn the defference between illusion and the truth.Last edited on Mon Jul 19th, 2010 10:04 pm by Nancy
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Nancy
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Posted: Mon Jul 19th, 2010 10:09 pm |
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Hm wel sorry i don't believe in god or the bible. It's something humans created just like your demons.
I do beliefe in something like a source or so don't know how to put it in english but not in the god of the bibleLast edited on Mon Jul 19th, 2010 10:12 pm by Nancy
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Posted: Mon Jul 19th, 2010 10:14 pm |
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| I wonder if a person who does not believe in demons, but does believe in god and angels, believes in the existence of Archangel Michaël? After all, it is Michaël who is known to be a fierce demonslayer.................
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Posted: Mon Jul 19th, 2010 10:36 pm |
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well, IF people believe demons are real then yes, they are capable of manifesting them...
I believe we all come from a 'God' source...I do believe God is real...we are real....
you will find books out there about how this life here and all things on this planet are an illusion..something we created...It gets a bit intense and deep...but...I think people carry that illusion thing a bit too far.
I do believe angels, guides etc are real. I don't believe in Satan and demons as people do..God didn't create the demon...or hate. or evil...know what I mean?
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Posted: Mon Jul 19th, 2010 10:45 pm |
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No I don't..................after all. there is no light without darkness..............
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Nancy
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Posted: Mon Jul 19th, 2010 10:53 pm |
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| Well Satan is a big word negative entity's and demon kinds yes. Some created by humans some not, it's like guides you do beliefe or don't but tell me how can there be guides and angels. And why are they callt beings of light if there is no darkness? They don't need the light then right it's would all be grey and if that's always good i doubt it.
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Posted: Mon Jul 19th, 2010 10:56 pm |
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| I do belief we come from a source yeah.... god no.... not like that. But tell me how can a small child be possesed if there is no evil to call it that. Talking about a child of the age of 3....
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Nancy
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Posted: Mon Jul 19th, 2010 10:57 pm |
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| and don't tell me he made it up cause a child had a big immaginacion but is not strong enough to manifestate that.
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Posted: Mon Jul 19th, 2010 11:09 pm |
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I believe in a 'source' too.....that is what I said...some people call it 'God'...which is actually a noun.....
I could write all night about manifesting ...and you would still not get what I am trying to explain here....I should never have brought it up. Maybe this is something you need to study? maybe that is why you were sent to this forum? I don't know where the anger came from Nancy...It wasn't from me....and I won't get involved...sorry you feel this way.....
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Nancy
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Posted: Mon Jul 19th, 2010 11:14 pm |
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| well anger i am not angry then you would have a really different reaction. And i do understand you, just have a different opinion about it so no you don't have to explain it al night. We just don't share the same vision that's clear. Maybe because i know other sides of this then you do have seen different stuff then you.
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Posted: Mon Jul 19th, 2010 11:22 pm |
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Maybe this is something you need to study? maybe that is why you were sent to this forum?...............This is, once again, an interesting point of view...........But let's turn it the other way........Maybe saira got here to let you study something?..After all, none of us know the whole trueth...........We can write a triology on the things we encountered................
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Posted: Tue Jul 20th, 2010 01:05 am |
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I've been studying for years and feel quite comfortable with who I am...what I believe...I will put you both in my prayers....this is just not being very productive , anger is never productive.
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Posted: Tue Jul 20th, 2010 01:13 am |
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How long do you think I ve been studying? Well, Dee, I will think about you in my prayers,,,,,,,,,,,,,and ask for the divine light to shine upon you.....so one day, you might realize how the universal forces really work........... ignorance is not very productive either.........
blessed be
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Posted: Tue Jul 20th, 2010 01:37 am |
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| why do you think we are angry for starters? that is just not true we don't share the same opinion and still you want us to change our vieuw in it. When we say we just don't agree you say we are angry no dear like i said when i am really angry you will know, For your years of study well who says we didn't had them to? i am happy with who i am and with my own beliefs....
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Posted: Tue Jul 20th, 2010 01:53 am |
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please ladies...you are acting as if I have attacked you which I have not.
I didn't say anything about your 'studying'...only about mine. I don't care if you don't believe what I do, I never said you should. and I never commented on your years of study...I was only saying I am comfortable with me and my belief...and I am glad you are with yours...you should be...so please just let this stop...you are 'coming' across angry is what I said...if you are not then that is wonderful...I am not attacking you...I don't care if we don't agree on things...ergo, everyone's journey is at it's pace for reasons of ones own...no one has any right to put their belief on someone...I don't expect you to change your belief...I never said I did...?????
enough already..I cannot respond to this sort of behavior. It's so wrong.
blessings...d
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Nancy
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Posted: Tue Jul 20th, 2010 05:41 pm |
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heya,
i'm not acting like you attackt me, i think you just don't understand what i mean nothing more. The way i communicate is different because i'm dutch so keep in mind we just talk different then the real english people. The last message was just ment about trying to understand.That's why there are questions.
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Posted: Tue Jul 20th, 2010 07:28 pm |
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"I cannot respond to this sort of behavior. It's so wrong.
blessings...d............."
So what do you call this behaviour? You are judging.........You could say you think it is wrong, rather than making it sound like it is a fact. Your way of responding comes very close to being very arrogant...............patronizing even........
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