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Posted: Mon Oct 3rd, 2011 06:59 am |
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| By "worshipping" I didn't mean the real worship (like prayer), but something like "Oh, you are the real Archangel, so you are always right, higher than people and so omg super cool. I will follow you, no matter what you do. You can be rude, cruel and full of pride, but you will be always a hero in my eyes"
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Posted: Mon Oct 3rd, 2011 03:05 pm |
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"Faye, you don't sound as if you care not about the teachings of the bible at all (Yep, I really don't), read the book of Revelation and the book of Enoch (No need, done so).
Oh and another thing, why do Humans think worshiping Angels is alright? (Whoever said humans worship angels?) God is the only one worthy of prayer from Humans and praise from us (Do you actually think "God" is the most Supreme Being? Ever heard of The Goddess and Her role?).
Do not worship us, this can lead to our fall (BAHAHAHAHAHAHA!).
If one is a true Angel they'd know they should never receive prayer, worship, and praise from Humans as only God is worthy of this. (Yep, you sound like a puritan Christian.)"
Which religion were you born into when you came into this Earth in this lifetime, may I ask?
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Posted: Mon Oct 3rd, 2011 03:27 pm |
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Faye wrote: "Faye, you don't sound as if you care not about the teachings of the bible at all (Yep, I really don't), read the book of Revelation and the book of Enoch (No need, done so).
Oh and another thing, why do Humans think worshiping Angels is alright? (Whoever said humans worship angels?) God is the only one worthy of prayer from Humans and praise from us (Do you actually think "God" is the most Supreme Being? Ever heard of The Goddess and Her role?).
Do not worship us, this can lead to our fall (BAHAHAHAHAHAHA!).
If one is a true Angel they'd know they should never receive prayer, worship, and praise from Humans as only God is worthy of this. (Yep, you sound like a puritan Christian.)"
Which religion were you born into when you came into this Earth in this lifetime, may I ask?
First off, I honestly have to say I loved the information and opinions in this topic. It gives an understanding that I've been searching for apparently, who knows what it is but I feel warm inside now after reading some peoples thoughts on this. So I must say thank you very much. 
Second, Faye you made my day with this comment . I can't help but put on a big smile with this. Thank you.
I too have read Revelations and The book of Enoch, but I know I can't be limited by it. I'm sure many people have read it. ^_^
Blessings,
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Posted: Mon Oct 3rd, 2011 03:37 pm |
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"I don't know... I usually feel very mad when I see people who claim to be popular angels. I mean, many people is naive and they are ready to believe that their friend or a person who they met, really is incarnated Archangel. They are ready to follow their false teaching and are ready to worship them. Many people are living in a lie, because they have believed in someone's false claims. There is another thing what makes me mad. People may walk away from God and Angels, if an "incarnated archangel" is rude or cruel to them (or to others). They might believe, if Archangel of God is so bad, then God doesn't have to be full of love either. People who claim to be Archangels and are rude, give a very bad opinion to angelic beings. "
Hi Miya...
What good would it do if you get mad? These souls are on their own paths; and you can't say "Stop! You're in the wrong direction!" - Because what is wrong and what is right anyway? Everything is as it should be, regardless if the person chooses to believe in whatever he/she believes, that is how it would be for them during this lifetime.
Yes, if you have noticed, those who have grandly proclaimed they are incarnated "higher" beings are the same ones who are so easy to judge and quick to use "I will punish you in the name of God" or "Heed my call or judgment will be upon you" or "The sword of Truth will smite you!" ---> In the words of one of my wisest teacher, "That is the Wounded Father talking." (I don't know how else to put it.)
Well, let's just say, a few years down into their own lives, what is meant to happen will happen. Earth calls for those who have strayed, humans are humans - and humans are capable of doing extraordinary things. Like I always say, each and everyone of us is imprinted with the Divine blueprint, it is just a matter of us remembering and honoring it. And when I say "honor", it doesn't mean you go around bragging about it or dressing up like an angel and worse using the Bible as your main source of God-given messages. Go to countries like Saudi Arabia, Afghanistan or Pakistan and start preaching Bible there and see what they'd do to you. So are these people who have not read or touched the Bible going to hell? Hell no! Besides, I don't believe in hell, because hell is what you make it to be. Just like heaven. And heaven and hell are here on Earth. Try being stuck in the elevator for 8 hours with 4 stinky people, a dog (you know they poo and pee, right?) and an incessant person who claims he's the avenger of God and will save all of you. Isn't that hell? (I just wanted to make you smile.) Blanketed statements, usually used by these so-called incarnates often contradict themselves. For some of them who choose to be on this kind of spiritual path, it won't be easy because they choose to still be under the veil and well, yes, allow ego to run their words and actions.
There is no sense of getting angry about it all. But if you want and need to be, then by all means, honor that emotion. It is a very valid reaction. The only time I got really pissed was when somebody threatened to hurt people who didn't believe him. That was when I stepped in and told him to watch his words.
Learn what you can from these people who claim they are incarnates, Miya. They are on their journey, and you must respect that. Hopefully, later on, you'd come to understand that things flow easiest when you "allow" and that by learning what you need to learn from these people who make you angry, you master your own emotions, your own reactions, your own thoughts.
I participate in this discussions because I learn (like I said to you, I am a teacher but I am also a student) and I love to laugh. And I get very happy when long (sometimes drama-filled, sometimes anger-filled) discussions are resolved amicably or at least with a certain degree of understanding from all parties involved.
In the end, these "incarnates" will still have to go along their path with or without you. So why spent the little time you have walking along with them in anger?
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Posted: Mon Oct 3rd, 2011 04:03 pm |
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IridescentSkies wrote:
Faye wrote: "Faye, you don't sound as if you care not about the teachings of the bible at all (Yep, I really don't), read the book of Revelation and the book of Enoch (No need, done so).
Oh and another thing, why do Humans think worshiping Angels is alright? (Whoever said humans worship angels?) God is the only one worthy of prayer from Humans and praise from us (Do you actually think "God" is the most Supreme Being? Ever heard of The Goddess and Her role?).
Do not worship us, this can lead to our fall (BAHAHAHAHAHAHA!).
If one is a true Angel they'd know they should never receive prayer, worship, and praise from Humans as only God is worthy of this. (Yep, you sound like a puritan Christian.)"
Which religion were you born into when you came into this Earth in this lifetime, may I ask?
First off, I honestly have to say I loved the information and opinions in this topic. It gives an understanding that I've been searching for apparently, who knows what it is but I feel warm inside now after reading some peoples thoughts on this. So I must say thank you very much.
Second, Faye you made my day with this comment. I can't help but put on a big smile with this. Thank you.
I too have read Revelations and The book of Enoch, but I know I can't be limited by it. I'm sure many people have read it. ^_^
Blessings,
Skies
It's good to laugh! I love to laugh!
P.S.
I looooove your avatar Skies! Makes me all warm inside.
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Posted: Mon Oct 3rd, 2011 09:49 pm |
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Interesting bit of information about anger. Never thought in putting it in that way and in that perspective. Though it is a given for many people, I still am in the learning process with that and to find a calming solution. Maybe I'll think of things in that light when I get angry. Who knows may work...
Thank you! I like your avatar too! ^_^
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Posted: Tue Oct 4th, 2011 01:32 am |
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Faye wrote: "Faye, you don't sound as if you care not about the teachings of the bible at all (Yep, I really don't), read the book of Revelation and the book of Enoch (No need, done so).
Oh and another thing, why do Humans think worshiping Angels is alright? (Whoever said humans worship angels?) God is the only one worthy of prayer from Humans and praise from us (Do you actually think "God" is the most Supreme Being? Ever heard of The Goddess and Her role?).
Do not worship us, this can lead to our fall (BAHAHAHAHAHAHA!).
If one is a true Angel they'd know they should never receive prayer, worship, and praise from Humans as only God is worthy of this. (Yep, you sound like a puritan Christian.)"
Which religion were you born into when you came into this Earth in this lifetime, may I ask?
None, and to tell you the truth I am no Christian.
Do you honestly think any Angel would like they way you treat others? What Religion teaches what you're dishing out? I see Mocking, Ignorance, and Hatred.
Do you worship him? The man with a horn, one eye blue as the sky and one eye dark as night? He who conquered the world? The undefeated warrior? Do you worship his father the morning star and the morning star's wife?
Goddess? The Archangels would roll their eyes if they saw this.
I've seen so much hate towards others and some actually show love and respect for others.
I've seen prayers and such on this forum to Angels, how can you deny that alot of people on here worship specific Angels?
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Posted: Tue Oct 4th, 2011 01:46 am |
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I follow no religion, and do not believe in the existence of whom you call a man with horns.
I do believe however that humans are capable of doing good as they are capable of doing bad. As such, energies exist, and that which thoughts created can manifest themselves to reality.
I am simply answering you by the way you answered me - mocking - as I am no follower of the Bible or any other literature you spoke thereof.
If you don't find the humor in my post, then my apologies. I have simply grown tired and amused of everyone who comes here with such information similar to yours - as I've said, you are not the first and most likely won't be the last.
If your "god" intends to punish or if the man with the horn you speak of intends to detroy or what not, then let them... That is your world, and your belief. But don't go around saying people do not care or hate you or your beliefs. You obviously have work to do inwards. And this is me simply saying, I don't care. And you oughta learn how to respect that.
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Posted: Tue Oct 4th, 2011 02:01 am |
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And just to let you know...
The ones whom you said "persecuted" you, there is ONE flaw in all of them... A flaw very much present in religions and in other countries hence the many sufferings and lack of human progression.
And until you learn what that is, well, let's just leave it at that... But be assured, you will still go around in circles without resolution and still think of the same thoughts and ideals.
That is your path, and yours alone.
You, one who seeks Truth, do you not feel you are farther away from it despite all your discoveries? That beyond the reality you know to exist, there seems to be an endless myriad of questions or perhaps a tiny crack on the wall?
What is the Truth really? And does it apply to everyone?
And so you reincarnated, but how does that affect the lives of the people you've told?
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Posted: Tue Oct 4th, 2011 09:30 am |
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Rahmpayl wrote:
None, and to tell you the truth I am no Christian.
Goddess? The Archangels would roll their eyes if they saw this.
I've seen prayers and such on this forum to Angels, how can you deny that alot of people on here worship specific Angels?
There is a vast difference between worshipping and expressing love and gratitude..........a lot of people have been assisted by higher beings (God..... angels....archangels....ascended masters....goddess...spirit guides etc....) when they are at their lowest ebb......the divine has come into our lives and shown us that there is more........the greatest thing about it is....it doest matter what religious beliefs you have ......if any ........god doesnt discriminate..........i feel it is good to show love and gratitude.........they are higher vibrational energies that will help us all x x x
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Posted: Tue Oct 4th, 2011 08:20 pm |
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angels are worthy of prayer....given to us by God to help and guide us...prayers go out to the universe...and are answered ....by God, angel ...whom ever....does it really matter???? faith and trust in all of this is what matters....
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Posted: Tue Oct 4th, 2011 08:31 pm |
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oh please, Archangels rolling their eyes...I just can't believe the egotistical stuff you write....pa-lease...........and by the way, I have read those...and I'm sure we don't believe the same thing on that subject...you see it as an end....I see it as an awakening of all our chakras ....and being in the presence of God....I can go on and on....anyone, in my opinion , who takes this book in a literal sense is SO missing the mark........you can continue to speak in riddles....but I think it is because you don't know any better....please, let's be real....this secret society stuff is just junk....free masons aren't about any evil...etc...they know a lot more than you do...
I am not Christian or any other religion...I'm one who prays for the truth for years and gets my information from Divine...just as 'everyone' else can. IF we ask for truth ...we are guided to it...simple as that....those who feel they 'can't just need some faith in themselves...everyone has access to the complete truth of who we are ...who God is...angels...Life of our soul....Jesus...etc etc etc.....I don't feel you are any incarnated angel....I think you've read too many game books...played too many video games....I'm not being disrespectful ...I'm just tired of this fantasy stuff.....because IF you were 'real'....you would NOT come out with this....and you know it!!!
you don't fool me...
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Posted: Tue Oct 4th, 2011 10:37 pm |
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My message will affect the people I have told.
When the 140,000 prophets tell everyone to leave their homes and go to an exact location where they will gain protection from what evil will unravel, I hope they will remember me and decide to go.
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Posted: Tue Oct 4th, 2011 10:53 pm |
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I was a Freemason, Skull and Bones member, Bohemian Grove member, Golden Dawn member, Brotherhood of the white member, Brotherhood of the red member, Illuminatius, IOT member, Knight of Malta, and Templar Knight (lineage tracing back to the original Templars, and the Ancient Babylonian Mystery School.
I was kicked out of, banned and persecuted (still am) by these groups (they're all linked).
I had just achieved 33rd degree in Masonry, I had a meeting with The Master Mason (I know master mason is all also a rank, I'm speaking of the leader of all Masons of the York Rite).
The last step to being a REAL 33rd Mason was crossing the Abyss then crossing back.
I astral projected and so did the The Master Mason, we did not project in the Masonic Temple but in the Abyss, as I stood there The Master Mason spoke with a spirit, it was a higher being because it connected itself to his brow chakra.
The Master Mason grew angry, BAM, I'm back in my body.
He directs me to the door and told me to never return and that I was exiled from the lodge. From then on I was completely cut off from all of the orders I was connected to and persecuted for no reason (still am).
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Posted: Wed Oct 5th, 2011 04:39 pm |
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Rahmpayl wrote: I was a Freemason, Skull and Bones member, Bohemian Grove member, Golden Dawn member, Brotherhood of the white member, Brotherhood of the red member, Illuminatius, IOT member, Knight of Malta, and Templar Knight (lineage tracing back to the original Templars, and the Ancient Babylonian Mystery School.
I was kicked out of, banned and persecuted (still am) by these groups (they're all linked).
I had just achieved 33rd degree in Masonry, I had a meeting with The Master Mason (I know master mason is all also a rank, I'm speaking of the leader of all Masons of the York Rite).
The last step to being a REAL 33rd Mason was crossing the Abyss then crossing back.
I astral projected and so did the The Master Mason, we did not project in the Masonic Temple but in the Abyss, as I stood there The Master Mason spoke with a spirit, it was a higher being because it connected itself to his brow chakra.
The Master Mason grew angry, BAM, I'm back in my body.
He directs me to the door and told me to never return and that I was exiled from the lodge. From then on I was completely cut off from all of the orders I was connected to and persecuted for no reason (still am).
My oh my .... Greetings ...,
... Its such a nice day outside ... wouldn't you say?
I do not wish to be rude, no not at all, but I find the information has diverted from the actual topic at hand... I am no moderator or admin but to this extent, it has nothing to do with what the topics initial question is.
Rarely I state these things on forums however I am compelled to write this now... I respect your views to this subject but please ... if you wish or could, start a new topic or question OR return back to the topic at hand. Thank you in advance for your kindness in the matter. It is appreciated.
Blessings to you,
-Skies
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Posted: Wed Oct 5th, 2011 07:42 pm |
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I think love for angels is being confused with worshiping angels....yes, only God...our source...the One....is worthy of worship......
I'm sorry Rah....I don't think you are right....I think you've got it all wrong...I don't know where you get your information but I just think you've been grossly mislead...and don't tell me to read Revelation...Enoch...I have...studied it in fact...so, as usual...biblical terms are taken differently from every one's religion...which is why I don't follow any one religion...........I follow what I believe....I follow from the information I receive...I feel that information is more pure than anything I could read...and as Virgo says....we do and can receive our knowledge from all of those realms....
also, in my opinion, this 'war' and demonic stuff...which many claim to be a part of ,,,,angelically etc....I just don't believe in it....I think things got out of control some where and there is a following...which is very common among those who are depressed...lonely...etc.....I'm not saying you are........but....it is common for those who need 'something' in their life...to stray towards this area of belief.....why do you feel you are an angel...and why do you feel 'you' and your other angels friends will be telling humans to move somewhere etc...????.....IF anyone is going to lead me anywhere it will be God or Jesus....other wise I'll stay put....
and I have to add...as Faye touched on, that it seems when ever someone comes here and claims to be an 'important' angel...they DO seem to get angry very easily...and instead of being soft spoken and full of love and advice...they seem to be strong minded...angry...impatient....and mostly egotistical....and full of them selves...and mostly talk about how important they are???? so you should be able to see just why we have a problem believing in the things you say....IF...huge IF...the day comes when all you have said comes into 'being'...well, then I will be the first one to shake your hand............dee
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Posted: Wed Oct 5th, 2011 07:58 pm |
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Rahmpayl wrote:
I was a Freemason, Skull and Bones member, Bohemian Grove member, Golden Dawn member, Brotherhood of the white member, Brotherhood of the red member, Illuminatius, IOT member, Knight of Malta, and Templar Knight (lineage tracing back to the original Templars, and the Ancient Babylonian Mystery School.
I was kicked out of, banned and persecuted (still am) by these groups (they're all linked).
I had just achieved 33rd degree in Masonry, I had a meeting with The Master Mason (I know master mason is all also a rank, I'm speaking of the leader of all Masons of the York Rite).
The last step to being a REAL 33rd Mason was crossing the Abyss then crossing back.
I astral projected and so did the The Master Mason, we did not project in the Masonic Temple but in the Abyss, as I stood there The Master Mason spoke with a spirit, it was a higher being because it connected itself to his brow chakra.
The Master Mason grew angry, BAM, I'm back in my body.
He directs me to the door and told me to never return and that I was exiled from the lodge. From then on I was completely cut off from all of the orders I was connected to and persecuted for no reason (still am).
Well i can see that this condemnation hurted you..
I was kicked too... From scientology.
But that does not hurt me one bit. I too was condemned for wanting to leave. Told i was a suppersive person for no apparent reason, that i am bad for myself and others, that i will soon succumb.
But, one thing i did learn.
Dont push yourself in a group that does not want you.
If those around you reject you, respect their wishes and leave.
Maybe this helps you...
Edit: oh i hope you understand that the people on this forum don't reject you.. i was not refering to that..
much love Rah
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Posted: Wed Oct 5th, 2011 10:11 pm |
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dee wrote: and I have to add...as Faye touched on, that it seems when ever someone comes here and claims to be an 'important' angel...they DO seem to get angry very easily...and instead of being soft spoken and full of love and advice...they seem to be strong minded...angry...impatient....and mostly egotistical....and full of them selves...and mostly talk about how important they are???? so you should be able to see just why we have a problem believing in the things you say
100% agree.
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Posted: Tue Oct 18th, 2011 07:34 pm |
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Oh, I haven't been here for quite a while... and I see a lot of intense discussions going on
All I can say now is that if someone believes he/she is an IA - let them be. If they really are an angel - sooner or later they will understand and follow their life's purpose. If they are not - well, life/time will prove that too Anger, hatred and harsh words will do no good - neither to the person "claiming to be" nor to the one expressing the views/emotions. I think what's really important is to accept people 'as they are' - but, at the same time, maintain your own strength, objectivity, reason and, as Faye or Dee (?) had mentioned it earlier, carefully "filter" all the information you hear: do not let yourself be fooled by the so called "false prophets", but also keep in mind that some things that are too difficult for us to understand/accept may, in fact, be true. Remember that none of us (human or angel) can perfectly understand everything, hence we are in no position to judge anyone. And one more thing: be mindfull of your own words. Not all people are ready to hear what you want to say/are saying.
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