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Posted: Wed Jul 13th, 2011 03:07 am |
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| I've seen and heard many people say that they are an angel from reasons that they feel wings on their back to having many kinds of dreams. What experiences do you have that tell you that you are an angel?? Why do you think its necessary for to know if you are an incarnated angel if you are one??
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Posted: Wed Jul 13th, 2011 11:18 am |
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excatly.
this is the question i have been thinking about for the past few days.
my first reaction when i read posts where people claim to be angels, or even better - archangels is that their ego is flying quite high.
i understand this first reaction is judgment. and i am human. nevertheless i do feel comfortable acknowledging them they indeed are angels- why not. if they feel that way, who am i to say they are not.
i have encountered many individuals, total strangers who aided me unselfishly, unexpectedly stirring my faith in angels and kindness. they were my angels
i remember giving a helping hand unselfishly and unexpectedly to total strangers, being their angel at that moment. stirring their faith in goodness
so, we all are angels to each other.
there should be only one case where an angel reveals its identity - only in great need, only when such a revelation is absolutely necessary in a life saving situation. all other occasions are just showing off
if you feel you're archangel Bla- it is enough for you to say - hay, i'm Bla. i can help you out with..... anyone interested? i'd be happy to help
that's it. anything else creates drama. suspicion. doubt. disapointment... ego issues
now, suppose i was an angel- which i don't know really- and i incarnated. ever since that moment i am human and will continue to be until i cross over back from where i came from. and as human i can not expect the universe's laws to bend for me. meaning, i can't go around pretending i am an angel. i then am not living a human life and i am waisting time, most probably learning that way too. but, i am human.
but, it's great to carry the knowledge of your origin close to your heart to give you constant inflow of energy so you can live your lifetime to the fullest. and be comfortable at all times. because, life is for living.
that includes to experience people telling they are archangels and you accepting them that way with love compassion and understanding. and support.
complicated. it has layers. after we overcome those layers, we are only left with respecting each other and understanding we are all one..
a little story:
one man and his wife sat together to have lunch under a cool shadow of a huge oak tree. they were working in a cornfield and after tiresome labor they sat to rest and have lunch.
as they ate, a man's mind wondered off. he asked his wife while looking ahead far away. he said, "hey Bella, do you know whose cornfield is this?" and she replied calmly with love in her voice, "it's your's Bello".
bello: "tell me bella, whose well is it in the middle of that cornfield?"
bella: "yours, bello, it's yours"
bello: "and whose house do i see down the other side of that field?"
bella: "yours.."
bello: "and the stream? the trees? the path that leads to bees house?"
bella: " it aaallllll yours, my bello."
so, we are all one
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Posted: Wed Jul 13th, 2011 11:35 am |
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Yes, we 'are' ALL One............! and "equal" in every way!
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Posted: Wed Jul 13th, 2011 04:10 pm |
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If someone tells me that they are incarnated popular Archangels, I do not believe them. I'm sorry but I think that some people have way too big imagination, they have been tricked by evil spirits or they have a mental illness. It is not even about the ego. It is about being very naive. I have met many people who claimed to be incarnated Archangel Michael, Uriel, Gabriel, Ariel, Azrael, Archeia Faith, Mother Mary etc. When I ask them why they think so, I usually get the answer: "because a spirit told me" "because I feel close with Archangels" "because I had a dream about it" "because my friend told me" etc. Ok, I had a dream about being Archangel Michael. Is that mean I'm incarnated Archangel Michael? No, I'm not incarnated Archangel Michael. It was only a dream.
There is also something - people who want to be incarnated Archangels, usually feel bad with themselves and they have a low self-confidence. They have had painful life experiences, so now they believe that they will feel better and stronger, if they are Angels. They also want to feel better and higher than the ones who have rejected them (school mates for example).
Sadly, there are people who blindly believe them. The dude says "I'm Michael's incarnation" and everyone are like "AHHHHHH!!!! He is the real Archangel Michael!!!" I bet if I told them that I was a cute pony with a pink tail and blue wings they would believe me too
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Posted: Wed Jul 13th, 2011 04:38 pm |
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| I have to agree with you Miya.
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Posted: Wed Jul 13th, 2011 08:38 pm |
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Thanks
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Posted: Thu Jul 14th, 2011 05:41 pm |
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| Very interesting! I see that self confidence does come into the play..
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Posted: Thu Jul 28th, 2011 03:47 am |
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Miya wrote:
If someone tells me that they are incarnated popular Archangels, I do not believe them. I'm sorry but I think that some people have way too big imagination, they have been tricked by evil spirits or they have a mental illness. It is not even about the ego. It is about being very naive. I have met many people who claimed to be incarnated Archangel Michael, Uriel, Gabriel, Ariel, Azrael, Archeia Faith, Mother Mary etc. When I ask them why they think so, I usually get the answer: "because a spirit told me" "because I feel close with Archangels" "because I had a dream about it" "because my friend told me" etc. Ok, I had a dream about being Archangel Michael. Is that mean I'm incarnated Archangel Michael? No, I'm not incarnated Archangel Michael. It was only a dream.
There is also something - people who want to be incarnated Archangels, usually feel bad with themselves and they have a low self-confidence. They have had painful life experiences, so now they believe that they will feel better and stronger, if they are Angels. They also want to feel better and higher than the ones who have rejected them (school mates for example).
Sadly, there are people who blindly believe them. The dude says "I'm Michael's incarnation" and everyone are like "AHHHHHH!!!! He is the real Archangel Michael!!!" I bet if I told them that I was a cute pony with a pink tail and blue wings they would believe me too
very interesting Miya. No offense meant but I kinda agree to the fact that those who claim they are incarnated AA have mental issues of some sort, but I'm not talking in general. There will be always someone who will exploit "anything" for reasons of their own. You can be angel to anyone but an "incarnated" angel, I doubt it. Again, that is just in my humble opinion.Last edited on Thu Jul 28th, 2011 03:47 am by Rtarita
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Posted: Sat Jul 30th, 2011 04:29 pm |
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I'm not saying that angels do not incarnate  But when I see someone who claims to be incarnated Michael, Gabriel, Uriel or another special Archangel, then... nah nah.
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Posted: Sat Jul 30th, 2011 09:58 pm |
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I'm one who doesn't believe they are incarnated either...supposedly the only angels who did incarnate were the 'Fallen' ones....those who chose not to, "chose to stay with God"......................do I feel angels can 'appear' to humans here....Absolutely !!! for sure I do believe they can appear to us...(.they have no reason to incarnate...as far as I'm concerned anyway.).......how many darn incarnated Michael's can there be on this planet at one time!!! YIKES...........
but, this is all just my own opinion ...for those out there who 'hate' what I just wrote...it is just 'my' belief...and I don't 'expect' everyone to agree with me...
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Posted: Sun Jul 31st, 2011 08:27 am |
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| I personally believe that some angels (who are not fallen) incarnate, because they have some missions to do or they want to live as humans. They want to meet and understand the human beings better. The angels do not know EVERYTHING, that why they decide to incarnate. They are also curious about the human life. However, the Archangels work only in the higher realms. They may visit us, take care about us, work with us and even guide us. If someone is an incarnated angel, they may belong to the Archangels's spiritual family and also feel them close. But claiming to be incarnated Michael, Gabriel, Uriel or any other famous Archangel is too much. The worst is, that people who claim to be Archangels are very stubborn and they don't want to hear anything. Honestly, speaking about them always make me angry Last edited on Sun Jul 31st, 2011 10:33 am by Miya
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Posted: Wed Aug 10th, 2011 10:04 am |
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I think I should hold down my horses a little.
I shouldn't have said that Archangels haven't incarnated for 100%. I'm sure that a lot of people who claim to be famous Archangels is confused about themselves. But the truth is... you never know what may happen Life is full of beautiful surprises.
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Posted: Wed Aug 10th, 2011 11:52 am |
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well today my perspective also changed slightly..
i must change my statement today.. i was able to understand that who we are is how we feel about ourselves.
for example: if you live a life as a criminal, from universe's point of view this existence is neither bad nor good. we, humans, see it as a bad way to live your life, but from god's perspective it is just one opportunity to know yourself and see where you're at on your journey to oneness. to god. that is actually just an opportunity to discover what you are "made of"
living a life as a "good standing citizen", compassionate and loving, you again are giving yourself a chance to understand the essence you are "made" of in your quest to rejoin that oneness again.
in other words... it makes a huge difference how we feel about ourselves, if you feel to be this powerful high energy, currently incarnated, that just displays how you feel about yourself, and there is nothing in the universe to contradict that. as such you, are taking up a role that only few feel comfortable in relation to its responsibilities.
so.. here is my perspective today... i hope it will change soon
love you all, z
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Posted: Wed Aug 10th, 2011 11:52 am |
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well today my perspective also changed slightly..
i must change my statement today.. i was able to understand that who we are is how we feel about ourselves.
for example: if you live a life as a criminal, from universe's point of view this existence is neither bad nor good. we, humans, see it as a bad way to live your life, but from god's perspective it is just one opportunity to know yourself and see where you're at on your journey to oneness. to god. that is actually just an opportunity to discover what you are "made of"
living a life as a "good standing citizen", compassionate and loving, you again are giving yourself a chance to understand the essence you are "made" of in your quest to rejoin that oneness again.
in other words... it makes a huge difference how we feel about ourselves, if you feel to be this powerful high energy, currently incarnated, that just displays how you feel about yourself, and there is nothing in the universe to contradict that. as such you, are taking up a role that only few feel comfortable in relation to its responsibilities.
so.. here is my perspective today... i hope it will change soon
love you all, z
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| it is important to know if you are of the angel realm to help you to stay strong and have the courage to complete your life mission and this is revealed to you, not all at once, but slowly so that your human mind can adjust to the truth. When a soul comes from the angel realm it does not come for one lifetime but perhaps started the process thousands of years ago. It not only creates it's own karma over lifetimes but also burdens itself with other's unprocessed emotions and karma so that it can experience. All this is done so that the angel human finally learns to empathize...something that an angel soul in it's own realm cannot do; they can feel compassion but not empathize because they live in a constant state of bliss; when the angel in human form has finally learned in earnest the ability to empathize, it can truly aid the arch angels and angels in their work here on earth by lifting individuals and aiding those that are going through periods of transition to ensure that they move forward and not regress back to old pattern....in all aspects, the human angel as all souls coming from various realms to earth are not certain of their soul's origin...but awakened angels have a constant re-pore and guidance at will with angels and the arch angels who's wings or guidance they are under...no magic, just hard work
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Posted: Sun Oct 2nd, 2011 02:08 am |
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october10th wrote:
excatly.
this is the question i have been thinking about for the past few days.
my first reaction when i read posts where people claim to be angels, or even better - archangels is that their ego is flying quite high.
i understand this first reaction is judgment. and i am human. nevertheless i do feel comfortable acknowledging them they indeed are angels- why not. if they feel that way, who am i to say they are not.
i have encountered many individuals, total strangers who aided me unselfishly, unexpectedly stirring my faith in angels and kindness. they were my angels
i remember giving a helping hand unselfishly and unexpectedly to total strangers, being their angel at that moment. stirring their faith in goodness
so, we all are angels to each other.
there should be only one case where an angel reveals its identity - only in great need, only when such a revelation is absolutely necessary in a life saving situation. all other occasions are just showing off
if you feel you're archangel Bla- it is enough for you to say - hay, i'm Bla. i can help you out with..... anyone interested? i'd be happy to help
that's it. anything else creates drama. suspicion. doubt. disapointment... ego issues
now, suppose i was an angel- which i don't know really- and i incarnated. ever since that moment i am human and will continue to be until i cross over back from where i came from. and as human i can not expect the universe's laws to bend for me. meaning, i can't go around pretending i am an angel. i then am not living a human life and i am waisting time, most probably learning that way too. but, i am human.
but, it's great to carry the knowledge of your origin close to your heart to give you constant inflow of energy so you can live your lifetime to the fullest. and be comfortable at all times. because, life is for living.
that includes to experience people telling they are archangels and you accepting them that way with love compassion and understanding. and support.
complicated. it has layers. after we overcome those layers, we are only left with respecting each other and understanding we are all one..
a little story:
one man and his wife sat together to have lunch under a cool shadow of a huge oak tree. they were working in a cornfield and after tiresome labor they sat to rest and have lunch.
as they ate, a man's mind wondered off. he asked his wife while looking ahead far away. he said, "hey Bella, do you know whose cornfield is this?" and she replied calmly with love in her voice, "it's your's Bello".
bello: "tell me bella, whose well is it in the middle of that cornfield?"
bella: "yours, bello, it's yours"
bello: "and whose house do i see down the other side of that field?"
bella: "yours.."
bello: "and the stream? the trees? the path that leads to bees house?"
bella: " it aaallllll yours, my bello."
so, we are all one
Ah, October you are a very smart Woman.
Do you not see my dire message in my post?
This is a serious revelation that I need to tell people Humans, most Humans will never read the Book of Enoch and the Book of Revelation (both removed by early church leaders from the Bible as to not cause and fear and stir among the people).
I can only tell the people discreetly as I go, I cannot tell people face to face until things are about to hit the fan. (We are years away from it, which is why I must tell the people discreetly I will not give the year it will happen I don't wish to cause more fear than will be caused)
If I don't keep myself discreet or they will know and come to attack me, I cannot say anything by mouth till the end where I will be required by god to tell the people by word of mouth.
I only hope the people on the various forums I'll be going to will take heed and get their lives straight with god.
I must also speak in riddles many times as to confuse members of Secret Societies such as the Freemasons and the Skull and Bones, I have been actively persecuted by the Freemasons for no reason at all.
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Posted: Sun Oct 2nd, 2011 08:36 am |
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I just go, "Oh let them be" most of the time now when I read stuff like this...
Usually I also burst into fits of hysterical laughters. And then once I calmed myself down, I say a fervent prayer these souls are led to whatever path they need/want to take. It's difficult for some who are not "guided" and what more, if they have "issues".
Then again, when I went on my own journey of rediscovery, I had tons of "Oh my gosh! I AM blah-blah-blah..."
But there were wise counsels among those who walked the path with me. I was lucky. Humility taught me that it matters not really who I was, but who I am - And that in the quietness of all, I make a bigger difference than being all "Oh hail me!" or "I am the incarnation of Yoda!"
I have long been wary of those who base their faith on pieces of literature as well - even the Bible (not to stir another drama in this forum, please). While I honor the fact that Spirit does speak directly to individuals in whatever form easiest for the Body to handle, I still adhere to filtering of "messages" both given and received. There is a reason why veils were put on when we inhabited these human form, regardless if you were from the angelic/archangelic/fairy/starry/earthly/etc. realms. Perhaps those who claim they are who they are need to remember that.
Until then, I am happy just watching things unfold...
It's more fun doing so sometimes.
Namaste everyone!
Very happy to be reading your thoughts on this. And it's about time someone tell somebody to stop putting into people's heads (especially the young Ones) that they are incarnates. What good would that do if they do not honor the vessel they chose and were given for this particular Earth, eh?
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Posted: Sun Oct 2nd, 2011 08:39 am |
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| To put my last paragraph more simply, sometimes I just want to say "Who cares? I'll live all the way through 2012 happy while you go spread doom and gloom all around. Leave me out of it."
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Posted: Sun Oct 2nd, 2011 06:36 pm |
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Faye wrote: I just go, "Oh let them be" most of the time now when I read stuff like this...
I don't know... I usually feel very mad when I see people who claim to be popular angels. I mean, many people is naive and they are ready to believe that their friend or a person who they met, really is incarnated Archangel. They are ready to follow their false teaching and are ready to worship them. Many people are living in a lie, because they have believed in someone's false claims. There is another thing what makes me mad. People may walk away from God and Angels, if an "incarnated archangel" is rude or cruel to them (or to others). They might believe, if Archangel of God is so bad, then God doesn't have to be full of love either. People who claim to be Archangels and are rude, give a very bad opinion to angelic beings.
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Posted: Sun Oct 2nd, 2011 08:10 pm |
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Faye, you don't sound as if you care not about the teachings of the bible at all, read the book of Revelation and the book of Enoch.
Oh and another thing, why do Humans think worshiping Angels is alright? God is the only one worthy of prayer from Humans and praise from us.
Do not worship us, this can lead to our fall.
If one is a true Angel they'd know they should never receive prayer, worship, and praise from Humans as only God is worthy of this.
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